January 20, 2023 at 9:38 pm #2534AliceGuest
I know this will surprise all of you but the truth is the truth. Leo XIII taught the heresy that God is the “Father of all” and we know only Catholics are children of God. Leo XIII was very sneaky.
“But he answering him that told him, said: Who is my mother, and who are my brethren?
And stretching forth his hand upon his Disciples, he said: Behold my mother and my brethren. For whosoever shall do the will of my Father, that is in Heaven: he is my brother, and sister, and mother.” (Matthew 12: 48-50)
Antipope Leo XIII in Auspicato Concessum, #13, Sept. 17, 1882:
“Therefore has he [Saint Francis] deserved well of that brotherhood established and perfected by Jesus Christ, which has made of all mankind one only family, under the authority of God, the common Father of all.”
Antipope Leo XIII on Freemasonry, Humanum Genus, 1884, #34: “[…]
“Let, therefore, this holy sodality be strengthened by a daily increase. Amongst the many benefits to be expected from it will be the great benefit of drawing the minds of men to liberty, fraternity, and equality of right; not such as the Freemasons absurdly imagine, but such as Jesus Christ obtained for the human race and St. Francis aspired to: the liberty, We mean, of sons of God, through which we may be free from slavery to Satan or to our passions, both of them most wicked masters; the fraternity whose origin is in God, the common Creator and Father of all; the equality which, founded on justice and charity, does not take away all distinctions among men, but, out of the varieties of life, of duties, and of pursuits, forms that union and that harmony which naturally tend to the benefit and dignity of society.”
Antipope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum #25, May 15, 1891:
“But, if Christian precepts prevail, the respective classes will not only be united in the bonds of friendship, but also in those of brotherly love. For they will understand and feel that all men are children of the same common Father, who is God; that all have alike the same last end, which is God Himself, who alone can make either men or angels absolutely and perfectly happy; that EACH AND ALL are redeemed and made sons of God, by Jesus Christ, “the first-born among many brethren”; that the blessings of nature and the gifts of grace belong to the whole human race in common, and that from none except the unworthy is withheld the inheritance of the kingdom of Heaven. “If sons, heirs also; heirs indeed of God, and co- heirs with Christ.”
January 21, 2023 at 9:23 am #2538Robert RobbinsKeymaster
“One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in us all,” (Ephesians 4:6).
Are we to believe St. Paul was a heretic, too, then? Come now.
As I have asked you before, please produce one person—just one—who believed that Leo XIII was a heretic in his time. You won’t because you can’t. It is beyond my comprehension how some people can be so completely certain of their own superiority to everyone else and yet in the objective order be as wrong and self-contradictory as a square-circle.
Please, do not come to the Galaxy Forum anymore only to type such nonsense against Leo XIII. Not only is it not Catholic, it isn’t reasonable. If you have something of value to add, do so.
God be with you.
January 21, 2023 at 9:42 am #2540AliceGuest
I kindly ask where did St. Paul say God is Father of all mankind? Because it is very clear he is speaking to Christians not the whole world like Leo XIII.
My issue is that Leo XIII said God is Father of All meaning all of humanity, which opinion has been refuted countless of times by Popes and Doctors of the Church.
Gospel of Saint John:
“Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. But if I say the truth, you believe me not.”
God is not Father of all mankind and the Church has never taught this actually the opposite.
“Since, then, without faith it is impossible to please God and reach the fellowship of his sons and daughters, it follows that no one can ever achieve justification without it, neither can anyone attain eternal life unless he or she perseveres in it to the end.”
January 21, 2023 at 10:24 am #2541AliceGuest
Also wanted to add it is pretty presumptuous to demand a person like why would I need to?
January 21, 2023 at 7:23 pm #2568EugenGuest
Alice, I believe that if you would take the time to read Auspicato Concessum thoroughly and completely, you would find that Pope Leo XIII isn’t sneaky, at all. Or at least, that your suspicion that he may be sneaky is sneaky on your part in the first place.
Apart from that, I don’t see any reason to oppose your impression. What is the relevance of an Alice finding something rather sneaky?
February 27, 2023 at 11:18 pm #2632ReccaredGuest
After finding out that the heads of the Great Apostate Sect are heretics, some of our sedevacantist friends will find sentence after sentence in writings of pre-apostasy popes that they deem heretical and thus they depose any pope from his papal throne which they deem heretical. R.I. (who changed his faith every year or so) started that way. It first went up to Pius IX., then to the Renaissance church. Last time I checked he decided various church fathers to be “heretical anti church fathers”. Oh in what horrible situation we live!
March 1, 2023 at 12:08 am #2633AliceGuest
In reply to @reccared,
I recommend you to read the “the Lady of Fatima and the Antichrist” to get more context. The author of the book exposes all the Antipopes by solid proofs in “The mystery of Iniquity: The reign of Antichrist since 1878” which you should also check out.
November 5, 2023 at 9:22 am #3061Robert RobbinsKeymaster
All that is needed to get out of the horrible situation of thinking every single pope after Pius IX to be pope is to first figure out what exactly constitutes heresy. That is simple enough:
Q. 1171. Will the denial of only one article of faith make a person a heretic?
A. The denial of only one article of faith will make a person a heretic and guilty of mortal sin, because the Holy Scripture says: “Whosoever shall keep the whole law but offend in one point is become guilty of all.”
So, the question is, what is an article of faith:
Q. 1172. What is an article of faith?
A. An article of faith is a revealed truth so important and so certain that no one can deny or doubt it without rejecting the testimony of God. The Church very clearly points out what truths are articles of faith that we may distinguish them from pious beliefs and traditions, so that no one can be guilty of the sin of heresy without knowing it.
If you want to accuse popes of being heretics, you have to satisfy the two above criteria: first, you must show that the man claiming to be pope denied an article of faith; and, second, you must show that what he denied was indeed an article of faith. Pertinacity and such nice distinctions are superfluous, since a putative Roman Pontiff is assumed to have full knowledge of his acts and beliefs and what the Church teaches. Alice has never been able to do this, but refers us to the book she thinks answers everything. That isn’t good enough: she needs to show in a public forum those propositions which are asserted by supposed Roman Pontiffs which deny some article of faith. That can be clearly done with John XXIII down to Francis. I have never seen it down with those popes after Pius IX.
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