by Robert Robbins

Dams were Built for a Reason
In a recent post, Steve Speray wrote a response to me, entitled, “Robert Robbins’ Futile Attempt to Defend the Home Alone Position,” in which he states the following:
1. There is a thing known as cessation of law and epieikeia. Robbins has not made a case that the law of consecrating bishops by papal mandate is absolute where cessation of the law or epieikeia is impossible.
My article to which Speray refers dealt with the idea of necessity, in particular, how the sacraments themselves were not absolutely necessary, and so cessation of law need not be invoked to consecrate bishops, ordain priests, open seminaries, monasteries, and mass centers all over America. The whole presumption is that the sacraments were absolutely necessary for our salvation, and so priests were absolutely necessary for the sacraments, and so bishops were absolutely necessary for priests. All I did was gently point out the fact that the first presumption is false, and so the last assertion is false. But that wasn’t conclusive for Speray. I hope it at least gets readers of this blog thinking more critically about the claims made by Sedevacantists concerning necessity. From where I’m standing, there’s a gigantic whole in their logic.
Anyway, this post is more about the other principle often invoked, but which is essentially the same as the cessation of law. That is, epikeia. I am currently reading History, Nature, and Use of Epikeia in Moral Theology, by Rev. Lawrence Joseph Riley, A.B., S.T.L., a dissertation written in 1948 Riley produced while attending The Catholic University of America, back when it was Catholic. On p. 20, Riley writes:
This, then, is the nature of epikeia — “a correction of law where it is defective owing to its universality.” 6 For it is reasonable that there exist some means of emending a law in a particular case where it errs because its terminology is universal, even though in general the law may be ordained to the common good.
I do not pretend to have a full understanding of epikeia and the ways in which it may be applied validly and lawfully to any given situation. I would like to study this question more in-depth by reading Riley’s work. What I propose below is but a preliminary musing of mine. It is definitely opinion, but it sounds reasonable to me. I encourage thoughtful discussion on it in the comments if readers feel inclined. It is only through discussing these issues that a better understanding of them may be attained, and we may have peace of mind and spirit.
To that end, a thoughtful reader of this blog brought up a good point just before I was going to write this article, which I hope he doesn’t mind I share:
“…I believe there is sufficient doubt concerning the use of epieikeia in the Thuc consecrations, that staying home as a Catholic is the safest option. Plus, from the examples they provide in the book concerning epieikeia, it seems to be something an individual would use regarding some law as it affects him in an extraordinary way, not something that would be applied to the whole Church. Who decided for all Catholics that the Thuc consecrations had to happen and that epieikeia could be applied? Was it Thuc? Was it the priests who were to be consecrated?…”
The whole notion of epikeia is that it applies to universal law in its application to a particular case. But that is not what Sedevacantist do. They apply epikeia, not to a particular case, but to the universal state of affairs in the world. This is tantamount to saying that the universal law as such was defective as conceived and applied universally, and so the lawgiver–in this case the Church, if we are confining ourselves to speaking on the necessity of papal mandates for episcopal consecrations–was defective in legislating the law, because, alas, it is universally in need of correction. Obviously this conclusion is intolerable and absurd. The Church is infallible and unerring in her ecclesiastical law, otherwise we would be led astray by evil laws. The Sedevacantists, at the rockbottom of this debate about epikeia, are really saying that the laws of the Church are defective if universally applied. Let that sink in.
Some may object and say I go too far, because, after all, though it is true that the application of the law in the current situation is universal in space, it is not so in time. The current state of affairs have only been so since the death of Pius XII, after the death of whom the universal law of a papal mandate became defective, not on account of its universal application in space, but because of its universal application in time.
The objection sounds solid, but for the fact that the lawgiver undoubtedly foresaw the possibility of an interregnum, as there is always an interregnum after the death of a pope. The only difference is that there has been several decades since the Church has had a pope, whereas usually the Church does not have to wait this long.
The papal mandate is a law for the common good. Anyone who thinks about it for a moment, knows that to be true. We cannot have any man be a successor to the Apostles for Heaven’s sake–not that Sedevacantists actually claim to be successors to the Apostles, but that’s for another post. To say that the papal mandate is not required because it is a detriment to the common good when it was established for the common good, is absurd. It is like saying that a dam which was established for the common good of not flooding a village downstream should be removed because it is a detriment to the common good of the village. The idea is unintelligible. The net result has been a flood of doubtfully valid, unformed priests throughout America–and elsewhere in the world, but predominately here–offering doubtfully valid and licit sacraments in moonlight missions.
But there is another argument against the use of epikeia. If epikeia is only applicable to human law, which errs in its universal form when applied to a particular case, but epikeia is never applied to the natural law, but rather is used to make just and equitable what is lacking in the human law, thereby bringing the human law up to the natural law, it stands to reason that epikeia could never be invoked to correct Divine law. But canonical mission, whereby apostolic succession is transmitted from a lawful bishop consecrating a priest with the approval of the bishop’s lawful superior (the pope), is what the papal mandate secures. So, at least in its object, though not in its essence, the papal mandate is a matter of Divine law, not merely human law, and so cannot be corrected by epikeia.
Like I said, these are just some preliminary points and thoughts I have after reading a little of Riley’s book on epikeia, which I encourage those who can to read as well–it is scholarly, which means very dense and somewhat dry. I do not think that Steve has made a case at all for necessity or the use of epikeia, which he must do. The burden of proof is on the one who claims a right to act, not on the one who is trying to act within the law and claims no right to act without it. But I have shown, in albeit a sketchy and preliminarily way, a couple arguments against the use of epikeia, which may help to kickstart a deeper discussion and research into the question of its valid use in the current crisis.
So much for Speray’s first point. Let me jump to his third:
3. Robbins accuses our bishops and priests of “ignoring the law.” However, there’s also the law on publishing Catholic material. Can. 1384 § 1 tells us we don’t have a right to publish books without approval. § 2: “extends the meaning of the term books so as to include newspapers and other periodical publications as well as all other published writings, unless the contrary is manifest.”
Steve is right here. I do not have the right to publish anything, but I believe that justice and a reasonable cause compel me to do so, without the ordinary’s approval–which is physically impossible. As always, I turn to the BC for guidance, which teaches the following:
1180. We are obliged to make open profession of our faith as often as God’s honor, our neighbor’s spiritual good or our own requires it. “Whosoever,” says Christ, “shall confess me before men, I will also confess him before my Father who is in heaven.”
Here we have a positive precept to profess the faith when our neighbor’s spiritual good requires it or when God’s honor demands it. Unlike the reception of the sacraments which have substitutes for them, such as perfect contrition for penance, spiritual communion for the Holy Eucharist, and even Baptism of Desire for Water Baptism, there is no substitute for the profession of the faith. You either do it or you do not, and it is impossible to please God without faith. There are millions upon millions of would-be faithful Catholics who are in ignorance of the true faith because of the reign of the Antichrist. CatholicEclipsed is just a dim light to help those in the darkness. And since I try only to assert that which may be known through right reason or the catechism, I do not think any evil but only good is coming from this website. I hope Speray would not think otherwise. I have only defended the safer course, which is, well, safer. How can anyone find issue with that?
The BC actually makes the profession of faith a necessity for salvation:
1179. They who fail to profess their faith in the true Church in which they believe cannot expect to be saved while in that state, for Christ has said: “Whosoever shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven.”
Those who have the ability to communicate and use the technologies available of the day, have a positive duty to profess their faith in Christ and His Church. I do so here on the internet, because that is where most people are to be found who have a care about their souls. There is a lot of people who couldn’t be bothered to care about their eternal destination. The internet consolidates those who have an interest in religious matters into one place. It is like a public square wherein we can discuss the faith. It is the enemy of religion who would want to silence the faithful’s voice in the public square.
But Speray goes on:
Using Robbins’ argument, the law does not say, in case of necessity, one may ignore the law (because it is no longer binding) and go publish whatever Catholic material without lawful authority. Perhaps Robbins was unaware of this law, but to be consistent with his argument, he must now shut down his website and stop publishing.
There is a distinction between claiming the right to consecrate bishops without a papal mandate and claiming the right to publish one’s profession of faith on the internet. The two cases are not equal, and so cannot be judged the same. The Sedevacantist acts according to a perceived necessity where there is none, whereas I act were there is a necessity, the necessity to profess the faith. The Sedevacantist grasps for a power which he does not currently have (Holy Orders), whereas I already have the power of my voice, which I simply exercise without the approval of my superior, because I don’t have one. The Sedevacantist acts against Divine law, insofar as canonical mission to preach, govern, and sanctify require mission from the Church, whereas I act in accordance with Divine law, insofar as I profess the faith and do not deny Christ before men. You see, the two cases are about as dissimilar as milk is to beer.
Speray continues:
The power of a bishop to consecrate and ordain is an indelible mark of the priesthood that cannot be deprived. Even the Eastern Orthodox have valid priests and bishops this very day. The Code of Canon Law permits Catholics in danger of death to receive absolution from non-Catholic priests and bishops. Therefore, we have sacraments to help us no matter how much Robert Robbins denies Catholic theology and says no priests exist to administer the sacraments. There are literally tens of thousands of valid priests and bishops around the world.
When I said there were no priests I knew of in the world, was it not painfully obvious that I meant Catholic priests? The principle of charity in academics is that one assumes in his opponent’s argument the stronger position. Instead of doing so, Speray assumes not just the weaker position in my argument, but the asinine and absurd position in my argument. That only shows that Speray’s arguments for his position are so very weak, that he must contrive to make mine seem weaker than they are, even against a commonsense and charitable reading of them, in order to make his own seem stronger.
I wish to tie up this discussion with Speray with this. He said:
…if you will not consider the possibility that we are right, nothing will convince you. It’s like this with everything…
This is ironic, since I did consider the possibility that Sedevacantists were right when I was one. I received the sacraments from Fr. McGuire (now Bishop) at a Holiday Inn mission for about a year or so. My two oldest received their First Penance and First Holy Communion from him, and we were in communication with the then Bp. Dolan to receive Confirmation for my wife, elder children and myself. We were enrolled in the Brown Scapular, and Saint Gertrude the Great actually had a picture of the event on their website. We tithed regularly to SGG, and tuned in to the live-feed when we couldn’t go to the mission, which is a two-hour drive oneway. But Steve makes it seem like I’ve never entertained Sedevacantism in any serious sense, which is just flat-out false. My wife and I were very serious about being Sedevacantists, and we thought we found the Church, but, through the power of the daily rosary (which I confess I have slothfully neglected!) and through study, we came to the peaceful conclusion that the Church is in eclipse, and that, to be good and faithful Catholics today, we must profess the faith, pray the rosary, St. John’s mass, and perform spiritual communions and acts of perfect contrition. The sacraments of Sedevacantists are doubtfully valid and, by reason of Church law and Divine law, illicit. They are eclipsing Catholicism in their own way, though not as egregiously as the Novus Ordo. And so I must profess the faith against them, as well.
I don’t think that what I have come to understand and write about Sedevacantists is a fairytale. But this is.
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fake ‘catholic’ churches are the new rapid growth sector of the protestant religious industry..
look–they have invented a new classification of protestant denomination called ‘independent catholic jurisdictions’..
these ‘churches’ are all independent and form a constellation of oxymoronic ‘catholic’ churches..
https://en.everybodywiki.com/Independent_Catholic_Jurisdictions
there are literally hundreds of them.. it is a booming market..form a corporation, then advertise as being a traditional catholic church and shazaam.. they flock to ur door..
who needs the Nicene Creed.. no way..the hell with ONE, and Apostolic.. times are tuff..we are here to save everybody from reality..
plus were tax-deductable..such a deal..
my local fake ‘catholic’ church–
https://sacredheartmtnview.org/about/
in reality its a corporation made up of 3 members..but they dont like to flash that around..u might get wise to the scam..
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Incredible! I had no idea all of these groups existed, all claiming to be Catholic! Thank you for showing this. The whole idea of any sort of Independent Catholicism is absurd and an oxymoron. Would you agree that all of the better known Sedevacantist groups such as Saint Gertrude the Great, CMRI, SSPV are acting as Independent Catholics?
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Yes, they are independent and act independent. Sure, there is a kind of hierarchy between the priests and the bishop of each group, but the bishops are surely independent from any lawful superior—like the pope.
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they appear to have developed a parallel universe..they leave out the Pope, and just have their own synodal college of bishops, if even that..
example: https://apostoliccatholicchurchinamerica.wordpress.com/the-principles-of-catholicity/
there u have it.. the principles of [independent]catholicity..
cmri, sgg appear to be similar but maybe more independent..I dont think they have a ‘synodal’ conference yet..like the baptists and methodists have..maybe that will evolve later..isnt that what bergoglio is all about..lol..
this is clown-world catholicism..the in-mates are running the assylum..
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Robert, I consider this blog to more of a community get-together than a publication. I liken it to people gathering in a coffee house or the town square to discuss important topics. You are the moderator or facilitator. Speray is incorrect when he accuses you of ignoring Church law by “publishing” this blog. Again, this is more like a discussion group than a publication.
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That’s a very good way of looking at it. Today people can’t really gather and discuss things like this with like minded people, because of distance. I was actually thinking about running a forum on the website. Do you think that would have a lot of appeal?
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Yes, I believe it would have a lot of appeal. It’s worth a try.
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Thanks for your input. I will consider it, but I just registered with some other traditional Catholic forums (or is it fora?), and will give that a try for now to see if I like the experience before I put a forum on here. I really like the comments section of articles, because the body of the article sets up the discussion, and visitors can come and comment. If a forum doesn’t really provide much more than a place to comment, then a comments section might just be all that is needed. I am also conscious of aesthetics, and forums tend to be kind of drab.
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I like what U have now.. if u add anything more– why not just add one single column– like most recent remarks– as a general coffee shop–
instead of adding a gigantic topics/sub-topics/blog
I loose interest when I have to stumble thru a lengthy map only to find out that wasnt what I was after..
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That’s a neat idea, Jack. I agree with you on not liking the labyrinth forums can sometimes be. I like the simplicity of CE. I made it that way!
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“There is a thing known as cessation of law and epieikeia”
So I had a thought that the “parish” sedevacantists are kind of like conclavists, only on the diocesan level. The conclavists wanted to have sedevacantists elect a pope (electors would be or were laymen, and these vagrant “clergy”). These “parish” sedevacantists want to recognize a “bishop”, that they acknowledge is vagrant, but they kind of act like he fills the diocese (almost like they are “electing” him by recognizing him as “licit”).
The next step would be recognizing a “pope” that kind of acts like a pope, but doesn’t. And many of them lack arguments against conclavism. At least with a singular agreed upon “conclavist pope”, there would be arbitration of disagreements and some semblance of order. So one wonders then what their argument is against electing a “conclavist” pope, if they will justify “breaking the rules”, since the Church is a perfect society that is always supposed to possess the ability to elect a pope.
My argument has been that Catholic clergy should participate in such an election, so it seems implied that there must be either a “hidden” pope out there (not Siri, but like the Siri theory) or bishops (although I see some like BetrayedCatholics argue we have no more bishops, definitively). We don’t know where such clergy are, so we can’t elect a pope without them. We can’t consecrate bishops and ordain priests without papal permission. Which again then acts as an incentive to elect a “conclavist” pope. But it seems we cannot elect a pope, and therefore cannot consecrate bishops or ordain priests.
At best I would argue their position to be “indeterminate”, but then the “safer course” would be to arguably just follow the rules as are laid down, and avoid breaking them to create “clergy”. Hence it seems like the position to take is the “home alone” one (or whatever we are calling it). At least they should also acknowledge our position as being possibly correct, which almost universally they do not seem to do.
Another argument for uncertainty of who is correct, or maybe in our favor, is that there isn’t really much writing saying to set up a parallel vagrant clergy network if there is a long vacancy. Following the rules strictly however does lead to our position.
Another problem was almost all the orders stem from +Thuc and +Lefebvre, who both participated in the Vatican 2 church, and by the letter of the law would then cease to be Catholic bishops (wouldn’t they have incurred excommunications?). So they would be suspended from consecrating bishops or ordaining priests, I thought, until the pope lifted their excommunications. The consecrations and ordinations would be valid, but illicit.
“I do not pretend to have a full understanding of epikeia”
This is almost an argument in itself for the “home alone” position. How are average laymen expected to sort any of this out? When I realized I couldn’t go to Vatican 2 churches, I became skeptical I could go to “independent Catholic chapels” because I thought they were “unauthorized”. That was my thought, without knowing any further arguments about things. Arguably it’s not reasonable to expect a Catholic layman to sort things out beyond knowing that the Vatican 2 church isn’t Catholic. Then maybe there are a few of us who can actually study the issue and maybe have some opinion that has weight. So if a person does not have time to study the issues, home alone would seem to be a morally reasonable response.
There is a practical problem with the lack of jurisdiction with some “parish sedevacantists” as well. Like in some cities, there may be multiple “trad chapels” that are under different “bishops”. So no one really has jurisdiction over the area.
Along with that, there is a question of obedience. If a sede “priest” doesn’t want to obey a “bishop”, they can just leave and set up their own “independent chapel”. That wouldn’t happen under a pope. So there is a lack of obedience with any of the rival positions. “Parish sedes” don’t have a pope to obey, their “clergy” lack authority. The SSPX doesn’t follow the “pope’s” commands. The Vatican 2 church tolerates people dissenting from Catholic teaching.
Another practical problem is about who is to be thought “licit”. If, say, any random Catholic sedevacantist man who meets requirements to become a bishop were to become consecrated, does this now mean they are to be considered a licit bishop in the eyes of the Church? The “parish sede” view almost logically implies this. So it’s a free for all where anyone who can find a valid lineage can become a sedevacantist bishop in good standing.
Speray says: Robbins accuses our bishops and priests of “ignoring the law.” However, there’s also the law on publishing Catholic material.
I’ve heard this argument before, but I think perhaps it lacks substance (which the other commenter thinks as well). For the “parish sedes” support breaking the law for a higher purpose. So why can’t “home aloners” do this? It really just becomes a question of who is allowed to break the law and why. The “parish sedes” are both willing to break this law, and the laws surrounding consecration, setting up “churches”, and other things. So we “break” less laws, or maybe just one. Hence our position would respect the principle of epeikeia more by only breaking as few laws as necessary.
Regarding Can. 1384 § 1, I haven’t looked in to this in depth but have been aware of the objection. I wonder if “home aloners” wouldn’t even be violating this. We’re not putting out theology manuals with “imprimaturs” or “nihil obstats”. We are basically trying to have a conversation about a strange situation and are just posting things already approved by the Church, oftentimes. Reprinting a book isn’t the same as publishing a new work. But again the “parish sedes” also violate this rule, so it’s par for the course of who is the “worse offender” I guess. Their argument seems to be that we supposedly break a rule, so they’re free to break any they want, which doesn’t seem to logically follow because we don’t have to break those other rules whereas I don’t see how we can’t communicate with each other at all.
Speray writes: “The necessity of having Catholic bishops and priests and the lack of true sacraments can easily be seen”
Again, there is a necessity of electing a pope. So why not elect a pope then, what would be the argument against “conclavism”?
Honestly I do think Steve Speray might become “home aloner” eventually. It may take time for some people. I met a longtime SSPX person that became sedevacantist. So change is possible.
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